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Why is it So Hard to Remember What Happens in Transformers? | The Whole Plate: Episode 3

25/05/2017
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Auteur theory flows into film language, because Michael Bay loves him some film language (often without much thought to what the film language is actually *saying*).
Today, we're going to talk about visual language, especially contrast and affinity, when it works and when it doesn't, and why the visual language of Transformers makes it so difficult for what actually *happens* in the movies to stick with you after you leave the theater.
Also I finally said something nice about Christopher Nolan!
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  • Smiley JoJo

    Smiley JoJo

    15 घंटे पहले

    Cause it fucking sucked

  • Naief Alromi

    Naief Alromi

    दिन पहले

    Did a robot go into someone's nose ? I think that happened.

    • Naief Alromi

      Naief Alromi

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      ִKarpal5047 is Michael bay a crackhead ?

    • ִKarpal5047

      ִKarpal5047

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      Naief Alromi it did

  • Bear Mare

    Bear Mare

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    The purpose of movies where the intensity of the spectacle overpowers the plot is so viewers can buy the DVDs (or what evers) of these movies to rewatch the spectacle and to (maybe) learn what the hell the plot was about.

  • Miguel Magaña

    Miguel Magaña

    2 दिन पहले

    I always forgot where the glasses ended up in the first transformers movie. Like I legit don’t remember where they found it when the autobots and Sam are looking for it at Sam’s house and the autobots are trying to hide from the parents.

  • Jasmine V

    Jasmine V

    2 दिन पहले

    Remeber a robot climbing a pyramid with big balls bouncing around.....

  • Jasmine V

    Jasmine V

    2 दिन पहले

    I forgot about the glasses

  • Ro G. Videos

    Ro G. Videos

    3 दिन पहले

    What’s the movie at 4:01?

  • _.hybrids._

    _.hybrids._

    3 दिन पहले

    Most of the scenes I can instantly recall have Bumblebee in it. Half of the rest have Cade. I always hated Bee’s design until Bay’s design. Idk. I guess I like the young and/or protective types :/

  • Imlaor25

    Imlaor25

    3 दिन पहले

    Transformers is just pointless special effects and stuff happening. Entertainment for ADD kids. I can’t tell the difference between the first 3 movies, except it was Rosie Huntington-Whitely and not Megan Fox in the third one.

  • Patrick Goebel

    Patrick Goebel

    3 दिन पहले

    David Yates should've watched this before filming the Fantastic Beasts movies

  • RowdyRodimus

    RowdyRodimus

    5 दिन पहले

    I've noticed that a lot of Transformers fans actually, instead of not being able to remember what happened in the Bay films, we have created our own movies based on our own personal canon and what has been re-established by the (now gone) aligned continuity and the Covenant of Primus. I myself have been guilty of putting Ultra Magnus into Age of Extinction suring the first act when Prime is the old school white truck. As for the pillars, that plot point and movie (Dark of the Moon?) was much better when it was Megatron's Master Plan.

    • _.hybrids._

      _.hybrids._

      3 दिन पहले

      I think the only good thing about the film other that the action scenes is Bumblebee. IMO, his design and personality is the best thing about any transformers movie. I always hated the original Bumblebee. I loved that he’s mute, but I just wished that they tried to fix it or give an explanation why they couldn’t. I just used a lot of TFP’s explanation to things lol

  • SPIDERMAN Forever!

    SPIDERMAN Forever!

    5 दिन पहले

    Not all of Micheal Bay's Transformers movies are bad. The 1st and 3rd are NOT terrible. 4 and 5,yes they are bad.

    • _.hybrids._

      _.hybrids._

      3 दिन पहले

      To me, 1st, 3rd, and the 4th are good ones. I say 4th mostly because the main human characters weren’t useless screaming brats like Sam was.. That and that one line about Bumblebee’s edgy teen phase Optimus gave lol

  • Maserati7200

    Maserati7200

    6 दिन पहले

    It's funny, the only transformers movie I watched was the first one, in theaters in 2007. I remember almost nothing from the movie. All I remember is Megan Fox being sexy (that last scene), and the movie ending on a happy note with Linkin Park's "What I've Done" in the background music. And one of the transformers sort of narrating how the day was saved or how the conflict was resolved or whatever. I vaguely remember the ending, that's it. And I'm betting a lot of it has to do with the song being "What I've Done" because that's the first time I heard the song and it's one of my favorite songs to this day. I loved the movie when I was 14 but I'm guessing I'd hate it now at age 26.

  • waaapaa

    waaapaa

    7 दिन पहले

    OMG your homoerotic transformers fan fic should be a real thing.

  • Spider-Flash

    Spider-Flash

    7 दिन पहले

    Transformers 1-3 are underrated.

  • Nexion Nekros

    Nexion Nekros

    7 दिन पहले

    This situation is basically how magicians do their magic. They subvert your attention by reading ahead of what you are going to focus on while actually doing the trick in plain view. Funny enough this is how politics works as well.

  • Captain Crunch

    Captain Crunch

    8 दिन पहले

    Don't forget a billowing American flag in Bay Movies

  • Aaron-justin Anderson

    Aaron-justin Anderson

    8 दिन पहले

    Is this what happened with the first avengers movie because besides Hulk smashing Loki ,I can't remember shit from that movie

  • James Duvall

    James Duvall

    8 दिन पहले

    I read the thing. Oh God I read the thing...

  • AceOfBooks

    AceOfBooks

    9 दिन पहले

    For me it's more of a question of WHY do I fall asleep EVERY. SINGLE. TIME I WATCH THIS MOVIE???

  • Mr Flamingo

    Mr Flamingo

    9 दिन पहले

    Legit I love transformers

  • Me You

    Me You

    10 दिन पहले

    I quit watching them because I didn't want to listen to LaBeouf screaming every ten seconds

    • Captain Crunch

      Captain Crunch

      8 दिन पहले

      It would be funnier if he literally was super chill and jot screaming

  • Gensou Music

    Gensou Music

    11 दिन पहले

    TBH it's always harder for me to remember movies I've never watched.

  • Tom McDermott

    Tom McDermott

    11 दिन पहले

    See, that's why I've always disliked Bay's movies. It's not because they're big, dumb action movies, I love big, dumb action movies. The problem for me is they're big, dumb action movies that are also boring as hell.

  • Davi Duarte

    Davi Duarte

    11 दिन पहले

    I went to see this movie with my mother in the theater and immediately after it finished I turned to her and said I couldn't remember it

  • Watafu

    Watafu

    12 दिन पहले

    Well, that just sounds like Bay is shallow with extra steps.

  • Flustered bun

    Flustered bun

    12 दिन पहले

    I should have listened to you talk more instead of ending up trying to find out what the heck the writing was....and i regret it

  • Emmett Giacci

    Emmett Giacci

    12 दिन पहले

    Q. Why is it so hard to remember Transformers?
    A. Memory problem...?

  • Emmett Giacci

    Emmett Giacci

    12 दिन पहले

    Q. Why is it so hard to remember Transformers?
    A. Memory problem...?

  • Emmett Giacci

    Emmett Giacci

    12 दिन पहले

    Q. Why is it so hard to remember Transformers?
    A. Memory problem...?

  • Emmett Giacci

    Emmett Giacci

    12 दिन पहले

    Q. Why is it so hard to remember Transformers?
    A. Memory problem...?

  • 1uglynerd

    1uglynerd

    12 दिन पहले

    I feel like the reason these movies leave no inpression is Michael bay doesn't care about creating a decent or even a cohesive story he just wants to make money and army porn

  • edpistemic

    edpistemic

    13 दिन पहले

    Fascinating! I have only just found your channel but I love it!

  • Nova Sky

    Nova Sky

    13 दिन पहले

    Did a robot dryhump meganfox in transformers? 6:10

  • Nova Sky

    Nova Sky

    13 दिन पहले

    Bay is like a magic eye - just relax your brain let it wash over you and fill your mouth with popcorn

  • Nik does stuff

    Nik does stuff

    15 दिन पहले

    Dammit I thought I was the coolest decepticon in high school

  • Cristopher Borgstede

    Cristopher Borgstede

    18 दिन पहले

    I was forced to buy a ticket and watch the transformers movie with a knight in the title. I kept forgetting what was happening *in the theater*
    To this day I feel like I was watching a trailer advertise itself.

  • Corey Bertelsen

    Corey Bertelsen

    20 दिन पहले

    Goddamn you for tricking me into reading erotic Transformers fanfic

  • geniusfool the irrefutable

    geniusfool the irrefutable

    21 दिन पहले

    It's much simpler: crappy scripts by Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci full of plotholes!

  • SquirrelOnRoad

    SquirrelOnRoad

    23 दिन पहले

    It's simple. Transformers movies have no real plot. To me, they're just noise and giant car toys fighting each other and everybody's insurance claims being denied afterward because all the damage was an 'act of war' from outer space ;)

  • FrozenRoxas

    FrozenRoxas

    24 दिन पहले

    I did not expect to be reading transformers fanfiction today (or ever) but here we are

  • LRGonzales

    LRGonzales

    28 दिन पहले

    You sure white isn't a color?

  • Madalin Grama

    Madalin Grama

    29 दिन पहले

    Because any kind of basic, mildly coherent story-tellling in every Michael Bay movie gets burried under a butload of meaningless explosions and highly insulting, unamusing jokes. DUUUUH!

  • Mydas Knight

    Mydas Knight

    महीने पहले

    when she said what is the plot to *insert movie here* i literally said to myself "didn't they have to take a thing to place and some guy was trying to stop them?".......i'm very dumb

  • Kraig

    Kraig

    महीने पहले

    That ... and they were shitty movies.

  • Red Dog UK

    Red Dog UK

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    First vid I've seen of yours getting into movie reviews/breakdowns/critic am no feminist but have to admit havnt come across many females doing this kind of vid but anyhow Subscribed. Thanks.

  • Nicholas McCullough

    Nicholas McCullough

    महीने पहले

    Cause you have small brain dumb dumb small brain dumb dumb

  • Joshua Abadano

    Joshua Abadano

    महीने पहले

    You forgot the main elements to the Michael Bay aesthetic. Destroying cars and explosions. Lots and LOTS of EXPLOSIONS!

    • Joshua Abadano

      Joshua Abadano

      महीने पहले

      @Scide Those to! XD

    • Scide

      Scide

      महीने पहले

      don't forget those sexy chic who can't even act.

  • RAsplez 98

    RAsplez 98

    महीने पहले

    I suddenly have the urge to watch transformers again.
    Also, how could you FORGET that pee scene?

  • K F

    K F

    महीने पहले

    Transformers 1: The leading man was a childish baffoon. The leading lady was an unfaithful skank. I couldn't care less about either one succeeding.

  • K F

    K F

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    Visual diarrhea. The manner in which the transformers transformed was nonsensical.

  • Kasper Gutgesell

    Kasper Gutgesell

    महीने पहले

    Me: * watches youtube in the middle of the night instead of sleeping*
    Lindsay Ellis: W H I T E N E S S

  • Tim My opinion is ass, but

    Tim My opinion is ass, but

    महीने पहले

    So, basically you made this video to justify why you forgot bumblebee pissed on a dude

  • Tool Dry Boon

    Tool Dry Boon

    महीने पहले

    Technically, white is a color. what are u talking about

  • Fran Gorno

    Fran Gorno

    महीने पहले

    Because haters make up their mind to hate it and have a short attention span. Solved.

  • UltimateDuck97

    UltimateDuck97

    महीने पहले

    New thesis; Why are so many of your patreons' names start with unconventional letters like C, J and K but not more common letters like R, S and T?

  • Cameron Hutson

    Cameron Hutson

    महीने पहले

    So, I don't know if I'm going outside the bounds, or if I should have watched previous ones more closely... uh... certainly that I'm a touch late on this, but... Why is it that I love William Gibson's work, but I do this with his books... I'll read all of them, then two years later, I can't tell you much about what happened in them. Only books I just loose to the fog of war, erry time.

  • Toxicity

    Toxicity

    महीने पहले

    There is a scetch from the german comedian Marc Uwe Kling where he and his Kangoroo buddy want to watch Transformers together, they speed it up so its not booing, at the end they sped it up 15 times and the movie becomes a psycho drug thing that mangles with the mind of booth.

  • Captain Rednek

    Captain Rednek

    महीने पहले

    Please don’t speak for me, or anyone else. You are the only viewer you should be concerned about. I’ve seen these movies several times each, and remember everything quite well. It’s possible you didn’t remember much because you didn’t like them.

  • skye

    skye

    महीने पहले

    I watched all of them. I don't even remember how many are at this point, but I know I watched all. I know one has dinosaurs, other occurs on Egypt...One has little kids on it...and the other one is when Megan left. Idk the order

  • pavlara

    pavlara

    महीने पहले

    The answer to the question......
    Because with the exception of the first one which simply sucks, all the others suck hard.

  • UB3RFR3NZY

    UB3RFR3NZY

    महीने पहले

    spot on

  • //Cassiopeya Plus\\

    //Cassiopeya Plus\\

    महीने पहले

    I dunno, i remember them almost from my head somehow.

  • gredangeo

    gredangeo

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    Bumblebee peeing in that movie was pretty much like the only scene I had remember. Funniest throwaway gag in the whole film. Don't know what else happened it. Other than that "Ate the whole plate" scene. That was pretty funny too. Plotwise? No clue.

  • Christian Foley

    Christian Foley

    महीने पहले

    I had enough brain power to read that fan fiction, recall the movie, listen to your bull shit, type this comments and turn it off, all at once

  • Brodo Fraggins

    Brodo Fraggins

    महीने पहले

    This is why I will always prefer dubbed anime to subbed anime. I don't care how incredible you are at "multitasking," dividing your attention between reading text AND watching a show reduces how much of BOTH that you retain.

  • CaptDicker

    CaptDicker

    महीने पहले

    Excellent presentation, thanks for sharing

  • Fleebl

    Fleebl

    महीने पहले

    White is a colour

  • lordchadmitchell

    lordchadmitchell

    महीने पहले

    thats why i hate marvel movies

  • Abot Tame

    Abot Tame

    महीने पहले

    Ure talking nonsense make sense in my head, very good analysis.