The real reason Boeing's new plane crashed twice

15/04/2019
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This isn’t just a computer bug. It’s a scandal.
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Two Boeing airplanes have fallen out of the air and crashed in the past six months. On the surface, this is a technical failure. But the real story is about a company's desire to beat their rival.
Read about Boeing's efforts to get the 737 Max reinstated for flight here: www.vox.com/2019/4/5/18296646/boeing-737-max-mcas-software-update
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  • Zukat0

    Zukat0

    5 घंटे पहले

    capitalism

  • Luigi Luigi

    Luigi Luigi

    5 घंटे पहले

    So what would happen if MCAS is disabled and at liftoff the pilot flies the plane at “too high an angle”? Disaster again?

  • 0000 0000

    0000 0000

    5 घंटे पहले

    Capitalism is the most deadly thing humans ever invented

  • StojanovskiTV

    StojanovskiTV

    6 घंटे पहले

    Pushed it to soon, sounds American.

  • Min Yoongi

    Min Yoongi

    7 घंटे पहले

    and im scheduled for going on one in a few months. I actually hope the plane is still grounded so its cancelled. it better be fixed

  • Amit Sharma

    Amit Sharma

    7 घंटे पहले

    The top management of Boeing should be sent to jail. This was not an accident. This was murder !!

  • Patriot Indian

    Patriot Indian

    7 घंटे पहले

    Can someone describe, what was the reason for "Nose pointing too far upward". How exactly this is related to new Engine position.

  • Google is Trash

    Google is Trash

    8 घंटे पहले

    Boeing recklessly endangered and ended up killing people because they wanted to avoid being straight-forward about the new system.
    If Boeing is not thoroughly punished for this, and the responsible people fired and fined (especially the board, executives, supervisors, and anyone else in leadership positions), then justice will have failed to deliver punishment to the guilty.

  • john c

    john c

    8 घंटे पहले

    Now everyone is an Engineer. Including the one that made this video. It’s easy to say it was Boeing but truth is more complex than that and we need to wait for studies and field research work.
    Now everyone believes on everything someone claims as truth in this days.....

  • James Harris

    James Harris

    8 घंटे पहले

    Ist that the American way greed over lives look at there healthcare

  • Wasim Sajzad

    Wasim Sajzad

    8 घंटे पहले

    This is so sad

  • NyDeviant

    NyDeviant

    8 घंटे पहले

    So people died over greed and money smh

  • Robbie Briggs

    Robbie Briggs

    9 घंटे पहले

    This is absolutely ridiculous. BOEING NEEDS TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS. The plane industry should not be based off of competition because stuff like this happens. Government needs to regulate this to a monopoly like utilities.

  • Reichsfüher - SS Leichttraktor

    Reichsfüher - SS Leichttraktor

    9 घंटे पहले

    Remember the DC-10 Problems? Yeah the company that made them, McDonald Douglas, fixed them, the Boeing Company should fix this, as everything is.

  • Chase Janko

    Chase Janko

    9 घंटे पहले

    It was pilot error both times. Nice try tho

  • I Drink Your Milkshake

    I Drink Your Milkshake

    9 घंटे पहले

    We found this out well before this video was uploaded

  • MohammadReza Tayyebi

    MohammadReza Tayyebi

    9 घंटे पहले

    واقعا باعث تأسفه.

  • Marko Mark

    Marko Mark

    9 घंटे पहले

    Airbus no 1

  • Ashish Raina

    Ashish Raina

    10 घंटे पहले

    Very well explained. This is such a shame. Direct result of greed and shrewd capitalism. Profits before human life.

  • emailshe

    emailshe

    10 घंटे पहले

    So sad. Proves that u can't fix everything with software. Not enough testing, training and denial of pilot's reports

  • G123S

    G123S

    10 घंटे पहले

    Another American company ditching safety for money.

  • Mia Flyer

    Mia Flyer

    11 घंटे पहले

    The larger issue is about choosing to live, to work and to play in a place where you don't have to fly away from. Now think about that before you get on a jet.

  • J.Y. Huang

    J.Y. Huang

    11 घंटे पहले

    Never fly by this plane.

  • johnfarmingdale

    johnfarmingdale

    11 घंटे पहले

    BS, it ripped apart in mid-air. Boeing saved money by hiring diversity people, green card holders.... aka "cheap labor" aka "Global trade" Boeing found a PR to spinning the problem so the real problem doesn't show up.

  • Jayaraman Baskar

    Jayaraman Baskar

    11 घंटे पहले

    Obviously the answer is no regulation. So when more people die they will stop flying and it will fix the system. Right?

  • Dauphin K. Muteba

    Dauphin K. Muteba

    11 घंटे पहले

    Very informative video, you beat every report from the news...Thank you for your time.

  • James Ryan

    James Ryan

    11 घंटे पहले

    And they get away with deaths caused by their incompetence. "Make 'em pay".

  • Bob Bobby

    Bob Bobby

    11 घंटे पहले

    Don't fly the plane at 100% engine thrust, after takeoff, and you won't have problems with MCAS, fighting you back. SIMPLE! Max is not a fighter jet!!!

  • Junhao Kuang

    Junhao Kuang

    12 घंटे पहले

    Completely disregarded all other factors why those planes crashed, and yet, people thought this is a good job.

  • Howe Trinh

    Howe Trinh

    13 घंटे पहले

    Did you réalisé people died, and a preventive measure is not mention to pilots. Boeing is implementing a criminal business model

  • Cliff Morgan

    Cliff Morgan

    13 घंटे पहले

    Because the “Pilots” didn’t know a memory item....
    Where the “OFF” switches were!

  • Ilham Bassam

    Ilham Bassam

    13 घंटे पहले

    Translate thai plzzz with brief of story. Thanks u

  • Neil Biswas

    Neil Biswas

    13 घंटे पहले

    This is poor systems engineering, with no realistic evaluation of the risk; the risk mitigation in this case is faulty and a patchup, without any heed to the fundamental flaw in the system design !

  • blahmooblah789

    blahmooblah789

    13 घंटे पहले

    I like your videos but it please stop the scratchy cello music, tell that person theres too much rosin on their bow.

  • Andro345

    Andro345

    14 घंटे पहले

    A plane that won't fly straight naturally is junk.
    Airbus all the way.

  • Mohamed Osman

    Mohamed Osman

    14 घंटे पहले

    at first it's a great video and i want to make video like that about another topics and i need drawing and photo like that at MIN 2.01

  • Snooby66

    Snooby66

    14 घंटे पहले

    So, the "real reason" is the exact same thing that they've been telling us for weeks - bad MCAS

  • bansheemania

    bansheemania

    15 घंटे पहले

    So can we Say that the plane that Dissaperd a few years ago mh360? This happened

  • holcroft1969

    holcroft1969

    15 घंटे पहले

    The whole world is just obsessed with money now.

  • Tobias George

    Tobias George

    15 घंटे पहले

    Far left lies and propaganda can't trust what you say

  • Espen Bøgh

    Espen Bøgh

    15 घंटे पहले

    I think a part of the problem comes by raising the engines on the wings, - if that's so then a software solutions to MCAS system will not fix the problem.Hopefully FAA will not accept any updates to the 7373 max 8 until the final report of the flyghtchras is releaset.If so FAA will be responsable if another accident with the 737 max 8.

  • OVTV

    OVTV

    16 घंटे पहले

    This is what happens when you deregulate and under fund agencies like the FAA, this should have been recertified as a whole new plane.

  • Dankrupt

    Dankrupt

    16 घंटे पहले

    im curious why you ignored the cargo plane (same plane) that crashed a week before these. probably because that one proved it was something else crashing the planes.

  • dandycliff2

    dandycliff2

    16 घंटे पहले

    Boeing = Mass murderers.

  • Hossain al Fahad

    Hossain al Fahad

    17 घंटे पहले

    Safeguard become the killer (MCAS)
    Compete over money not Service and safety...

  • CarlosDuarte2007

    CarlosDuarte2007

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    The explanation of the failure seems to be the opposite of the explanation given in the video. If the engine is higher and its line of force is closer to the center of gravity and its location changed more towards the front, the power and weight of the engine should have LESS effect in the rotation nose-up of the aircraft, and had to increase the tendency to roll nose down.
    It sounds like the aircraft will naturally will try to nose-down more than the previous version of the airplane, thus the so-called MCAS would need to compensate nosing the aircraft more UP, instead of down.
    Maybe the pilots were used to increase the attack angle by simply increasing the power in the old models and when they noticed that they did not have the same effect in the new model they disconnected the MCAS thinking it was the cause, but in fact they were increasing the effect of the nosing down.
    But still there is the possibility that it was a defect in the software that was designed for the previous model, that tried to correct the nose down by increasing the power of the engine (like in the previous models with lower engines) at certain point the MCAS was unable to correct the nosing down increasing the power because in this model the engine is higher, the computer assumed was a failure and after few minutes disconnected itself causing the aircraft to dive down because the new position and weight of the engines.
    If the MCAS disconnected suddenly, and the pilots were unaware pulling or pushing the elevators the aircraft may have stall or dive down very fast.

  • phapnui

    phapnui

    17 घंटे पहले

    Predatory capitalism at its best.

  • Anthony S

    Anthony S

    17 घंटे पहले

    Best thing people can do is to not fly on the 737 max. Boeing is heavily invested into this plane.

  • MoonlightSky

    MoonlightSky

    18 घंटे पहले

    Just call it the death plane.

  • Joel Diver

    Joel Diver

    18 घंटे पहले

    this is not the reason they keep crashing

  • Bryce

    Bryce

    19 घंटे पहले

    The armchair pilots are out in force in the comment section it would appear.

  • derkhaslol

    derkhaslol

    19 घंटे पहले

    So Airbus made a high-quality product. And then Boeing had to improvise with a quickly rushed product. Yet everyone bought the Boeing? It´s crazy how often this kind of thing happens.

  • Ktkahghi

    Ktkahghi

    19 घंटे पहले

    OPAL

  • XtraDankBoi

    XtraDankBoi

    20 घंटे पहले

    This comment section is filled with idiots who think everyone who works at bowing should get charged with over 300 counts of murder...

  • Big Baller

    Big Baller

    20 घंटे पहले

    346 lives = Infamy
    Are you happy Boeing?

  • J B

    J B

    20 घंटे पहले

    Surprised that they didn't blame President Trump!

  • Harun Suaidi

    Harun Suaidi

    21 घंटे पहले

    This is how dishonesty kills. If this is true, then it is Boeing, not the airlines, have the blood of the victims on their hands. People are rightly furious about this and the victim's families deserve all kinds of compensation of their loss.

  • Jack Thayer

    Jack Thayer

    21 घंटे पहले

    Um bullshit if you move the engine up without changing the the pitch of the engine it does the exact oposite of what your saying if you would like to learn about this check out mentor on youtube

  • lord of the rings lord

    lord of the rings lord

    21 घंटे पहले

    Japanese MRJ made a %20 efficient aircraft without killing people. You are loser boeing.

  • We're Full

    We're Full

    21 घंटे पहले

    let me guess? communism is the answer?

  • Abinash Roy

    Abinash Roy

    21 घंटे पहले

    🙏

  • Michael Cornelissen

    Michael Cornelissen

    21 घंटे पहले

    Clear case of negligence for both Boeing and US governance.

  • TheDarknessOfGames

    TheDarknessOfGames

    21 घंटे पहले

    I know let’s give our money away

  • Dub Dub Flub-A-Dub

    Dub Dub Flub-A-Dub

    21 घंटे पहले

    If you know anything about airplanes or aircraft manufacturers, you know that this video is scrutinizing Boeing for something that other manufacturers do too. It’s a sad thing that lives were lost, but its what happens when mistakes are made. I don’t like how this video makes Boeing the “bad guy” when they are not the only company to release new airplanes quickly to make profit.

  • Rob Dow

    Rob Dow

    22 घंटे पहले

    It takes only two switches, to turn off automated system.

  • Email Alpha

    Email Alpha

    22 घंटे पहले

    I am not stepping foot on a 737 MAX until the root cause has been 100% identified and a fix made. I need 100% transparency on this.

  • Hawk Who Knows All

    Hawk Who Knows All

    22 घंटे पहले

    This is Why Robotos can Never Exist..
    We HUMANs are the GODs..Only We Are the Most Superior Organism Ever Exists...
    Only We can FIX ,CREATE.....

  • Pizza Pockets

    Pizza Pockets

    22 घंटे पहले

    Don’t blame boeing for this. Many planes have similar autopilot features. The fact that one crew knew how to turn the autopilot stall protect feature off shows that information was published on the MCAS system. Pilot error on both accounts for failing to understand their A/C and POH. Tough but that’s how aviation works. Complacency in aviation breeds these kinds of accidents.

  • Thomas Conrow

    Thomas Conrow

    23 घंटे पहले

    The flight before Lion Air 610 had the same problem, the crew solved it and reported it to maintenance.

  • nukestrom

    nukestrom

    23 घंटे पहले

    Its an American engineering marvel, just like Chrysler that stalls its engines on freeways.

  • Amellia Mendel

    Amellia Mendel

    23 घंटे पहले

    I can't wait to see the air crash investigation of this. I love those shows.

  • MrOrca30

    MrOrca30

    23 घंटे पहले

    Notice how no planes went down in the states because in America and most European countries a professional pilot knows how to disable it.....

  • Zeyu Wang

    Zeyu Wang

    23 घंटे पहले

    Guys please, never fly on max ever again! No matter what software they come up. Boeing needs to learn what a horrible thing they did the hard way! They killed hundreds people. Their blood is on Boeing’s hands

  • Andrew Polich

    Andrew Polich

    23 घंटे पहले

    Great visuals

  • Martin Moreno

    Martin Moreno

    दिन पहले

    Excellent video.

  • Jac

    Jac

    दिन पहले

    If you want the truth, don't go to vox

  • Chris Rosen

    Chris Rosen

    दिन पहले

    Wait, so how did the engine directly effect the plane from the nose being to high? How was the engine the problem?

  • Will Soliman

    Will Soliman

    दिन पहले

    @vox
    @time 2:11
    It should have been March 20, 2011 ??

  • Xaiano

    Xaiano

    दिन पहले

    Even if the software is fixed, the design flaws remain and it still has a massively higher risk of a stall. This is not a safe plane.

  • Tabebe Montilla

    Tabebe Montilla

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    They shouldve think of safety rather than money

  • Chairman Meow

    Chairman Meow

    दिन पहले

    This is literally out of fight club where he's explaining where if the cost of a recall is more than X (lawsuits from lost human lives) they wont do it.

  • MidN Music

    MidN Music

    दिन पहले

    thank god that JetBlue uses Airbus

  • Matus Niga

    Matus Niga

    दिन पहले

    I would like to see the person who came with this kind of idea to let plane overtake full control over Pilot??? And the another person who confirmed that? how is this possible?

  • Tijan Bah

    Tijan Bah

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    so if I show this to my teachers then I won't have to do MCAS ever

  • Horse Sense

    Horse Sense

    दिन पहले

    It's only two aeroplanes.

  • 【Natsuki Frostii】

    【Natsuki Frostii】

    दिन पहले

    MCAS? Oh! Like that test I have? Oh wait never mind...

  • Dan Baltizar

    Dan Baltizar

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    I am here to tell all that to much automation is the wrong direction, it is dangerous. The technology should stay out of vehicles for at least another 20 yrs until it is fully understood. I can’t wait for Uber to have a few big accidents. I hope they get sued to bankruptcy. All you goons that drive for Uber and Lyft need to understand you are going to be replaced by machines. That is why they have the service going everywhere possible. Tens of Millions of people are going to lose jobs due to automation in the next 10 yrs. we as a human race need to fight back at the companies pushing automation. It is time to Stan duo and fight. Humanity will disappear soon if we do not.

  • Dan Baltizar

    Dan Baltizar

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    Boeing and the FAA need to be made an example of and punished HEAVILY$$$$$. This is unacceptable, reprehensible. The CEO at Boeing should be in jail and the top execs at the FAA that approved the certification too. All fired and jailed. Anytime you start outsourcing, you have quality control issues and it only gets worse.

  • eric wsmith

    eric wsmith

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    Automated controls,.... this is not the first time a plane has crashed because of them. Why is it beyond the engineers train of thought to put one single control switch that would give pilots 100% control of the aircraft in case of some unknown system failure ? ,,,,Keep the warning systems, but let the captain disable ALL automated controls with out exception.

  • Charles clvr

    Charles clvr

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    2:53 “hottest selling plane on the market” so explain how according to your graph the neo has (around) 1700 orders in 2 years and the max has barely a 1000. Pretty sure 1700 is more than a 1000

  • NettiBongo

    NettiBongo

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    onething i dont understand about airplane companies. they dont understand if it isnt broken dont fix it.. they have alot of good planes but they keep making new design planes and testing with the passengers. cant they just produce more working planes. arh.

  • DaikiTV

    DaikiTV

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    I Hope boeing pays the price for being to lazy to redesign the plane. Just redesign the Aircraft if the engines wont fit! Just such an bullcrap. Over 300 People died because they didnt want to redesign the Aircraft?!?

  • Gene Simmons

    Gene Simmons

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    I still believe these planes were electronically hijacked....

  • pepper669

    pepper669

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    Good video, Ira Glass style.

  • vasco ambrogi

    vasco ambrogi

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    Those videos are similar to propaganda. It takes two switches to désengage MCAS. Please, an accident is a chain of events and putting the blame just on Boeing is simply stupid. As appealing the target can be, with all the greedy and nasty reasons you might want to satisfice on, this doesn’t help people understanding and pointing to the reality of the issue. The whole industry, including relative national regulators have to rethink their ways. Every 737 MAX is the same, but not every country, not every airline, not every pilot, and not every day, a faulty sensor is the cause. Then, Pilots training, Automation and Minimum safety standards are all to be reviewed in the wake of those catastrophe. Boeing has a culture to keep Pilots in direct control of the plane, all is in place to cut out electrical systems fast and effectively if needed. If you want to understand the economics behind, it’s to easy to blame the constructor, they are not the only one making money. But, surely, they are the ones that can sustain a hit. Une pensée aux victimes.

  • Levi Ackerman

    Levi Ackerman

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    Boeing a320 is better than 737-800


    Change my mind

  • Skrub Nation

    Skrub Nation

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    Capitalism us to blame for Boeing's actions

  • Jesse Bogdonoff

    Jesse Bogdonoff

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    Capitalism at it's finest!

  • GLR

    GLR

    दिन पहले

    Well done America... leading the way in $$ hunger

  • Shaderite Matobit

    Shaderite Matobit

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    Conclusion: Boeing, please Stop playing childish games.