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The Complex Feels of Guardians of the Galaxy v.2

31/08/2017
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  • severn macleod gore

    severn macleod gore

    18 घंटे पहले

    The part that broke me when I first watched this was that bittersweet scream kraglin gave at the realisation that yondu’s reputation had been restored and that last salute he does alongside his comrades in honour of his captain

  • severn macleod gore

    severn macleod gore

    19 घंटे पहले

    I was drinking when you said “detrimental dick-wagging” and I almost spat all over my computer

  • Katherine Lopez

    Katherine Lopez

    7 दिन पहले

    i didn't really relate to rocket before vol. 2. after all, he was the wisecracking, gruff tech guy, and i'm a goofy arts kid who cries at anything and everything. there's no way we could be more different. however, after i saw vol. 2, i immediately saw just how similar we are. we both do self-destructive things out of spite and for recognition, we both isolate ourselves from our problems, and, in doing so, make them worse, and our collective greatest fear is being rejected, so we tend to reject ourselves before other people can get to us first. i was bullied in middle school (well, not really bullied, just left alone with nobody to turn to), and i'm so happy that this movie gave so much depth to all of its characters and plotlines. it really means a lot to see a neglected part of myself in film.

  • Yukari Yakumo

    Yukari Yakumo

    7 दिन पहले

    My vote goes to Detrimental Dick Wagging

  • absolutless

    absolutless

    7 दिन पहले

    I watched my mother die when I was six years old. It gets a little tiring that every hero in every franchise seems to have had a similar back story, yet it's something the authors clearly know nothing about. They see "dead mom" as the perfect torment, yet they never actually contend with what it's like.

  • Dao Yang

    Dao Yang

    7 दिन पहले

    Isn't her ugly played for emotion? He calls her ugly, but her ugly filters out false companions for real ones. He says "it's okay to be ugly, cause when someone loves you, you know they love you for you".
    Also Drax is ugly, look at his skin, he's huge, and only had one love. When he tells her that she was ugly, it seemed as if he was speaking from an ugly perspective, which is himself. I thought it was a powerful scene. Though not as powerful as the part where Mantis feels Drax's feelings.

  • Dami Lawal

    Dami Lawal

    10 दिन पहले

    Thanks for making me cry at work. 😔

  • Samantha Mundel

    Samantha Mundel

    10 दिन पहले

    Wow I used to think this movie was very awkward and only liked it cuz of the songs but now it seems a lot better. Great review!!

  • sardoggy

    sardoggy

    13 दिन पहले

    I watch these ads cuz your worth it.

  • Lo Jurg

    Lo Jurg

    14 दिन पहले

    guardians 2 was my first marvel movie and will always have a special place in my heart

  • Lost Johnny

    Lost Johnny

    14 दिन पहले

    I loved this movie, I loved the 1st one too. And you liked Thor The Dark World? Ill subscribe.

  • Facundo Maldonado

    Facundo Maldonado

    15 दिन पहले

    Indeed lindsay is the only good youtuber

  • Kurt E. Clothier

    Kurt E. Clothier

    17 दिन पहले

    I guess it's ironic that the reason we (men) hide our emotions is that we were never taught how to manage them, and open expression of most emotions leads to harassment from others which ... hurts our feelings. I find myself getting angry at small things, but I know that if I let down the guard that causes me to be angry I would just be sad which is something I've been conditioned not to openly be.

  • Masterfrog

    Masterfrog

    18 दिन पहले

    This was a FANTASTIC video essay! One of the best I've seen! Thank you!

  • Jeremy Knaack

    Jeremy Knaack

    19 दिन पहले

    A hard drinking child of an abusive parent who got a degenerative brain disease and struggled to come to terms with how they feel about their parents, and also LOVED this movie? Are you me from the future?

    ...are you SURE you're not me from the future?

  • Connor Schneider

    Connor Schneider

    21 दिन पहले

    Damn what is the song that plays when Toxic Masculinity gets introduced?

    • Samantha Mundel

      Samantha Mundel

      8 दिन पहले

      Wham Bam Shang-a-Lang is the song name

  • jake hayes

    jake hayes

    22 दिन पहले

    Watches video, why aren’t I subscribed to you

  • Billy Weed

    Billy Weed

    22 दिन पहले

    I'd argue that the MCU as a whole has a theme of both shitty fathers and finding a family. Half of The Avengers have some form of daddy issues as a major character beat: Tony's entire character arc is about his ambivalent feelings towards his dad's legacy, The Hulk is literally the physical manifestation of Bruce Banner's repressed capacity for violence, repressed as a result of the physical abuse he suffered from his father. Thor...I don't think he needs to explain how he ties into that. They all have issues with their own families, but they find family in their teammates. Thanos, especially, ties into that theme: He's basically "what if the shittiest dad in the universe...was also God?" Plus, like the comics, there's a theme of becoming a better father yourself: Tony's relationship with Spidey fits,and its playing on a very common Marvel trope of an "old/young hero relationship" essentially being a surrogate father/son relationship. Reed Richards to Johnny Storm, Professor X to his X-Men, Captain America to basically every young hero he comes in contact with...fatherhood is a common theme in Marvel, and the movies lean into that.

  • Belana H

    Belana H

    24 दिन पहले

    when i wantched the movie in the cinema it was a couple of days after the funeral for the dad of one of my oldest freinds whom i grew up with and he sang father and son at his fathers funeral. well no surprise i was balling in the cinema.

  • Miguel Castillo

    Miguel Castillo

    25 दिन पहले

    One Big Blue Like! You have shed a new light to this movie, now i have to replay this one....

  • a grumpy monkey

    a grumpy monkey

    28 दिन पहले

    Thanks to Lindsay Ellis for perfectly articulating why this movie has been so emotionally impactful to my life. Thanks for creating such an in-depth view of how much film and stories impact us. I can't wait until what's next!

  • Defective Factoid Bot

    Defective Factoid Bot

    28 दिन पहले

    "We'll get to thanos"
    Oh, you will
    Also their other siblings, heh
    2017 was an inocent time

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

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    Personal, familial--
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    I remember about a year into knowing my stepdaughter (step peer? step elder?) noticing that I could literally see shards of radioactive shrapnel flying out from the unstable core of her psyche.
    A somewhat more severe condition than:
    24:25 "radioactive spike balls of defense mechanisms."

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

    महीने पहले

    Trying to watch exclusive patron content and its playing two vids at once and can't see full screen. : /

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

    महीने पहले

    32:50 *Great* video, I shared with comments to Fb.~

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

    महीने पहले

    29:13, I had this same experience with my late husband's transformation and death from Parkinson's

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

    महीने पहले

    24:25 "radioactive spike balls of defense mechanisms." Good one! That's definitely a thing.
    (I resemble that, sometimes. 🤔🤨)

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

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    20:16, yikes, that's me, my late husband, and his daughter, who's, well, a tad *older* than me, and was pretty obsessively pissed they 20 years we were in a "family" relationship...
    😔

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

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    17:57, "condoning abuse," that I did notice
    19:02, but great point, yeah, forgiveness, but with discernment
    Thanos & Ego aren't forgiven. They have no remorse and murder and torture those they claim to "love."

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

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    15:30, good insight; I didn't notice that.

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

    महीने पहले

    9:07 Aww... lighten up...
    ?
    It's Guardians...

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

    महीने पहले

    8:13 Very good analysis.
    🏵🤩🏵
    🥰

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

    महीने पहले

    5:399, Movies with Mickey/ FilmJoy is amazing ~

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

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    1:10, I think GotG 1&2 are both quite good and reasonably moving as escapist entertainment goes...
    Innovative obviously

  • jude steiner-hall

    jude steiner-hall

    महीने पहले

    1:10, I think GotG 1&2 are both quite and reasonably moving as escapist entertainment goes...

  • aidil mubarock

    aidil mubarock

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    Growing I really resentful towards my dad, I'm the oldest and he most strict with me and beat me up growing up, but he only beat me not my siblings, the feeling of being the black sheep, it as if I'm not really his son, not his family. Then he died when I was in uni, the hatred that I have just got numbing. I never really talk to him about my hatred, I want to know why? But I'm too scared confronting him about it. Now he's dead, what left is regret

  • lorenzo goglee1

    lorenzo goglee1

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    now if you exuse me i'm going in the corner.......to cry my eyes out

  • uhuhuh1966

    uhuhuh1966

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    I love how people act so superior when they say they don’t like this movie at all...when really they all just look sad, dumb, and film illiterate 😂

  • Vestige 1

    Vestige 1

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    3:56 Is no one else gonna talk about those google tabs?

  • Guilherme Dias

    Guilherme Dias

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    I cried like a baby watching Guardians II exactly for that: It's a movie about daddy issues and I got mine.

  • Jo Bromilow

    Jo Bromilow

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    Extremely here for the shared frustration with that COMPLETELY stupid 'green whore' line but please Lindsay, do not come for majestic Lee Pace like this.
    Great vid, though, as usual. I can't bring myself to rewatch the film because with every passing day Chris Pratt gets more insufferable, but thankyou for reminding me of all the good elements of this film aka pretty much everything that isn't him.
    PS I'm really sorry about your dad, several years late.

  • George Williamson

    George Williamson

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    Though I personally have no issue with the term 'toxic masculinity,' I am still a very big proponent of instead referring to it as 'Little Dick Energy." Because the things that we take to be toxic masculinity, often seem to be born of a lot of insecurities, like men seem to frequently have about our dicks. So if you fall into toxic masculinity, it often makes it look like you are just throwing a shit fit to compensate for something, such as a little dick.

  • hawker TV

    hawker TV

    महीने पहले

    Well, maybe not 'that' random...

  • hawker TV

    hawker TV

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    I liked your comments, and agree with you. I feel the essence of the films, is just that a random group of beings, with their parental disasters, as disparate as they are, can find each other, and become 'something' better. Maybe that is a story worth telling.

  • Kenpachi Ramasama

    Kenpachi Ramasama

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    Dear Lindsay Ellis, I am not one to experience a lot of emotions much like our Titular hero who never got the girl (yet), I reflect with grandeur and childishness. This essay on Guardians 2 resonated with me, due to me trying to "repair" what has been broken by prolonged time and unhappiness from certain events. Thank you, and I may not have known him, but I wish your father well.

  • Ryan Nixon

    Ryan Nixon

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    Wait... Submissive Asian woman is a trope?! The heck happened with my Philipino grandma then XD

  • FecalExcrement

    FecalExcrement

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    I'll never understand why ppl hype Guardians 2 this much. contender for the worst MCU film, if you erase it from existence it has no effect on the rest of the MCU. it's a complete filler movie. the fact that you had to be drunk to get any sort of emotional reaction pretty much sums it up. with the sucess of the first movie, they leaned so hard on the humor aspect it was downright painful. And the emotional moments were so hammy they dont illicit anything from me other than a cringe. i saw that Daddy line from Yondu coming from a mile away and it was just as lame as i expected it to be.

  • first notion

    first notion

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    That’s true, I’m so much angrier at my mother for allowing the abuse than the man who committed it

  • William Webb

    William Webb

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    hmmmm. Toxic masculinity is not only displayed by men as you say. it is displayed and proliferated by women just as often, usually by imposing it's ideals on the men in their life.

  • nuhhcole

    nuhhcole

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    ahhh god damn it, crying so much. i really relate to rocket wholeheartedly. great video essay

  • Kenny Patts

    Kenny Patts

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    I lost my dad to chronic illness (ALS). This video had me crying tears of legitimate unending sorrow. Thank you so much for the wise words - interpreting media can do so much to help with emotional turmoil.

  • Marina Schulz

    Marina Schulz

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    Damm, Id watched this video a long time ago and, rewatching, wasnt prepared for the bit about your dad dying (I haven't seen Guardians V2). Literally cried my eyes out, as I lost my dad about 6 months ago to, essentially, old age. (My dad had me very late in life) I know it's not parkinsons but it also affects people's personality and health and as a teenager I always kind of resented not being able to do normal stuff with my dad, even if he was extraordinary into very late in the game. He used to lift weights and do pushups every day until he was 82, even if he couldn't quite drive anymore! He was in the army, and could see, and was bomb at saving money and loved politics and I miss him so much. The weird thing is it kind of feels like death is just a phase and hell come back at some point, so it's really hard to understand, especially when I feel filled with regret for not having done more, but know my life would be completely different if I had --- I wouldn't have studied at abroad, which granted broke his heart a bit. He had very high demands about how much time I should have spent at home even if he was awesome, and it's hard not to resent that when you are young and think your parents (even if old) kind of cant die and still picture them healthy like before. And I would have spent more time with him, but then how would I have had my friends? Or any semblance to a normal teenage life? Times a bitch my friends, make the most of it while you got it and value people.

  • honkatatonka

    honkatatonka

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    Aye. I also don't think Yondu's redemption it's about condoning abuse but about the possibility of redemption. Thank you for this great analysis.

  • 7MonarC

    7MonarC

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    By 34:25 i couldnt contain my saltwaters any longer and had to pause. Man, i did not expect that from a film analysis. Where's the like button?

  • 7MonarC

    7MonarC

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    Radioactive, spikeballs of defense mechanisms.
    *i'm stealing this*

  • The Starchan's

    The Starchan's

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    I was abusive. to my friends. To my family. Alot of built of anger and sadness from my childhood.
    Only one friend stuck by me. And sometimes I catch myself snapping at people simply for sake of seeing if they will stick around.
    It took many years for me to change and now I have a food foundation of friends and family who though were never the best to me. Got forgiveness and in return have turned things around inside and out.
    How they treat me. See me. Talk to me.
    Forgiveness is hard. Forgiving someone who raised you in a way that gave you trauma is also hard. But once it happens you win eitherway. either they change and show you they can carr and did care dispite their flaws.
    Or you are released from the burden of having to hate and avoid someone
    I've never hated anyone in my life more then my mother.
    And yet I forgave her. Not because it's my belief or because I was told.
    my mother was a defining person who hurt me. yelled at me. and constructed a system much like thanos with everyone either in her love circle or rejected to their room without any attentuon at all.

    This video is true. It was basically my life abusive parent. Sibling rivalry that went way beyond unhealthy.
    Finding a group of people almost as flawed as you and finding your place among them.
    And forgiving the people who hurt you and learning to love those around you rather then push them away.

  • Herne

    Herne

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    None of the characters flaws are born of their masculinity with the exception of Yandu, even though I'd argue that's more just to do with the company he keeps and life he's lead than anything.

    Drax as you point out is a subversion of the trope. Peter is immature not hyper masculine, he lost his childhood so he can't let what's left of it go and Rocket doesn't want to be thought of as a _thing._ All of his actions are about not accepting others so they can't reject him first because he doesn't think he's worthy of love.

    None of these are masculine, they're purely character driven. There's no _toxic masculinity_ here at all. Why does everything negative need to be framed as masculine? If anything, Gamora has the most archetypal masculine story arch in that she's unwilling to accept her own feelings and reacts violently when she can't deal with them. Think of the "poet sorcery" scene.

    They're all deeply flawed characters, but the jostling isn't dick waving. That's a total misread on your part in my opinion.

  • bee pot

    bee pot

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    29:41
    Shit. That feeling didn't hit me til 2 years after my dad died. It's so wrong how trauma from a drawn out chronic illness just takes away all of the good memories. And that's on top of whatever baggage you had prior to this... thing invading every part of your life. But I have to say, I'd rather be here crying about how much I miss my dad and mom than not feeling anything.

  • Max Nord

    Max Nord

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    Over two years later, I still return to this video. This is my favorite video Lindsay has made. GotG Vol. 2 resonated with me in a way similar to how to how it did with Lindsay. Not a lot of my friends really understood (and still don’t, for that matter) why I prefer the sequel over the first film, but this video explains it better than I ever could.

  • Donte Larry

    Donte Larry

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    I love your examination of toxic masculinity in these movies. I never considered viewing the characters through that lens. Love your content!

  • Prophein X

    Prophein X

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    "Hey sir. Yes, you sir. I'll tell you your future for 5 mini-groots."

  • Dean Frost

    Dean Frost

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    Starlord is just misunderstood.

  • Brian Seiler

    Brian Seiler

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    Thank you for acknowledging the complexity of abusive dynamics. It really bothered me during that long phase of Infinity War hot takes when every other person thought it was clever to observe that maybe it might be a little damaging to suggest that maybe Thanos actually maybe did care about at least one of his daughters tossed out their criticism and maybe might have just possibly given the slightest impression that perhaps there's an outside chance that maybe they don't know what the hell they're talking about and ought to just shut their damn yaps. I lost my own mother a few months ago and...I mean, christ, I'm in therapy for DID because of all the years of mess, but it's more goddamn complicated than this notion that an abuser and a victim must always have some sort of universal antipathy in at least one direction. Just acknowledging that it's possible that Yondu really thought he was doing what was best for Peter without realizing that he was really doing what was easiest for him and Peter understanding that and trying to reconcile it with his very justified anger and hurt shows a deeper comprehension of how this can go down. I don't doubt for a second that some of us had the Thanos Nebula did, but goddammit, some of us had a Yondu and it's nice to hear somebody at least recognize that for once.

    The proximate cause of abuse isn't hatred or spite or self-absorption - it's being wrong about what the best thing is to do, and in their own minds, most abusers think that they're doing the right thing. You can become an abuser because you're a bad person in any or all of those ways (or even others I didn't list), but you don't have to be a bad person to be an abuser, and if you are an abuser, it doesn't mean that the motivation is directly malicious, and it also doesn't mean that that's all that you are or all that your relationship was. That's what makes this so damn hard to deal with.

  • Andy Meier

    Andy Meier

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    And yet for all that the movie is still cheesey. You don't discover the emotions they're thrown in your face.

  • yensid

    yensid

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    I liked this Guardians film so much more than the first. It seemed to have more...heart I guess & dealt with complex & often conflicted human emotions caused by dysfunctional/abusive/neglectful family dynamics. I recently saw a video essay by Wisecrack on Fathers in the MCU & how they/their roll might change in phase 2 & it was very interesting. Lots of bad or absentee fathers in the Comic Super Hero Mythos. In FairyTales it's always an "evil" stepmother. Kind of an interesting comparison I'd not noticed before.

  • Heidi Piepgrass

    Heidi Piepgrass

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    I really appreciate how honest you were about your dad and your relationship. I think part of being human is the complexity in our relationships. I am sending you some tears and a smile.

  • Miszczu

    Miszczu

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    After watching this: I really hate what they did with Gamora and Thanos abusive relationship.

  • Leilani Pigatt

    Leilani Pigatt

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    Though I liked the first one much more, I actually cried during the second one -- probably because I have many family problems.

  • geneEus

    geneEus

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    will you do a doom patrol review please? it tackles trauma and abuse quite well in a superhero genre

  • I Dazzler

    I Dazzler

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    It was horrid.